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Today's Creation Moment

Unnatural Selection?
Luke 12:33
"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth...
Just about every public school textbook once included the example of the peppered moth. The moth is used as a prime example of natural selection. Supposedly, as the trees in the English countryside...

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I need help, and I'll get to that in a bit. But first I want to pose some of the views I have right now.

I'll start with your "tumbler" theory. One common conception of the big bang theory is that the universe is infinite, or ever-expanding. Now, if you put all the necessary parts into a tumbler an infinite amount of times in an infinite amount of ways, the desired result WILL happen. You can't deny that. Even so, the odds that the desired result will occur are so miniscule that it might not occur once in a billion tries. The fact is, you get quite a few more than a billion tries in infinity.

In addition, your argument about the atomic clock is invalid by my response above. In an infinite amount of circumstances, one in which a clock works out as it does here on Earth must happen. In fact, if you subscribe to the theory of an infinite or ever-expanding universe, there are (or will be) a million solar systems exactly like ours, and a million more exactly like ours except that your computer is orange.

On a different note, I applaud you for making it to the end of your second paragraph before responding to Newsweak's attacks with one of your own, thus perpetuating the ignorance. It's kind of funny actually. A lot of the responses here claim that Newsweak's attacks were ignorant, and then attack atheism and other beliefs by saying it's foolish and unsupported. To quote the Bible (or at least my pastor quoting the bible), "take the log out of your own eye, before you try to take the spec out of your neighbor's eye."

Now on your last paragraph, you imply that only your way is correct. Please, tell me how a book written by people (who are fallible, mind you) thousands of years ago and translated a bunch of times is the infallible manual to life? It seems as though the argument for believing in Christianity is that you should believe it just because you should. If that's the case, if any of you were born into a Muslim family and were told to believe that scripture by your parents because it's the truth, would you not be believing all of that instead? Heck, why don't we just believe all religions that have a manual and no scientific proof just because we should?

You did not argue this, and I apologize if it is not even your belief, but I would like a response from any person who has a thought about this. A lot of creationists think that scientists are just trying to disprove religion. Some are, some aren't. But the fact is, science doesn't disprove religion as a whole. It disproves some things like young-earth creationism. And if you deny things like carbon dating, I honestly believe that you either have not read about them or just have too much of a closed mind to consider them, and I urge you to read an objective article on carbon dating with an open mind (objective being the key word--from the perspective of a serious creationist or evolutionist, the evidence would not be presented properly). Besides, if you deny carbon dating, you deny pretty much all nuclear knowledge about half-lives that we have. I apologize if this statement is incorrect, but you also might be denying nuclear power.

And now I ask for help. Barry W. Gaugler, I am not an athiest, but I cannot consider myself religious either. I want to believe in something, but the evidence just isn't there. I have tried exactly what you stated in your last paragraph--which is praying and asking for help--countless times, but I have received nothing. To quote my friend Robert Langdon, "faith is a gift I have yet to receive." But faith--defined as believing with no proof--seems silly to me. Why would a perfect god give no proof to his people that he exists and yet expect them to believe in him? Wouldn't only people who did not question what they were told from early childhood then make it to heaven? If he did create the universe, then he really screwed over a good bunch of people by not giving them the ability to believe wholly in him. Again I ask for help: prove my arguments incorrect without just posting scripture (which technically has no proof). Please help me to believe in God as I should--I really want to, but I just can't as I am right now. Thanks for any responses.

Oh--by the way--I do recognize that evolution and the Big Bang theory are theories and are not wholly proven themselves. I do not subscribe to any conventional interpretation of them that I have read. How did the energy for the Big Bang come into play? It has to be some supernatural incomprehensible force--a "god" of some sort. This is the only part of a "god" that I think must exist.

Please resond and help me as I really need it. I commented on your post Mr. Gaugler because I also have a high IQ and I want someone intelligent on the other end.


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