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Apr
16
Do the Bible and Science Mix?
John 3:12
“If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things.”
Scientific principles learned in the Bible have led to countless scientific discoveries and saved millions of lives. It’s true. Without the Bible, we would never have the blessings of modern science...
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War Between Science and Faith?

Though evolutionists would have you believe there's a war between science and faith, the very idea of a conflict is preposterous! God designed everything and left us with a user manual. We should look at the world around us, use good science and interpret what we see in the light of Scripture. Does Scripture give us any clues as to what we are investigating? If so, we shouldn’t ignore it but use it to help us interpret our observations.

Many of the early modern scientists were Christians – like Galileo, Copernicus and Newton. Many would say that the church was stupid or at least ignorant in persecuting Galileo for saying that the Earth was not the center of our solar system – the implication being that the Earth is, therefore, not the center of the universe. The formal church back then was legalistic and rigid. But because these scientists were Christian and believed in a God of order, this drove them to look for the order in the universe in the first place. So the problem wasn’t a conflict between good science and faith, but between a legalistic religious system and a new or different understanding of the world around us.

Now it seems like there is more weight in science than in faith. Indeed, we are told that we must keep our faith out of the classrooms and our scientific institutions in order to do good science. Nothing could be further from the truth! This is a lie from the enemy of our soul to try to indoctrinate our children to not believe in God. How can you do good science if you do not believe that the stuff you are looking at is ordered and if you believe that it came about from chaos? Why perform any experiments at all if the next time you do it the results will be different? There is no point in it. So while many science professors say we must keep science and faith separate, they themselves can’t believe this. Otherwise, they would never go into the laboratory.

It all boils down to this: What do you put your faith in – science (man’s understanding of the world) or God’s Word?  As for me and everyone at Creation Moments, our trust is in God’s Word.

Dr. Donald Clark, Creation Moments Board Member

This article is based on an interview broadcast by Broken Road Radio. To hear the original interview and many others on biblical creation topics, go to http://brokenroadradio.com/category/archives/dr-don-clark/

Comments

Thanks, Doc. This is my coffee for today!

Scientists aren't just ignoring the user manual, they're going out of their way to deny everything in it. It would be like trying to go forward in a car by shifting in reverse. Once you go down the path of denying that the Bible is historically accurate and contains real wisdom, God's wisdom, you get lost in the bramble of the fickle machinations of men.

Science has regressed significantly because people who want to deny God will deny facts. That's why we're still supposed to believe that there are "residual" organs instead of finding out the purpose God has for them. And how much stupidity does there have to be before we can admit that the body is designed, and that the universe is ordered and governed by principles such as gravity?

Design and order had to come from somewhere. Obviously the ordered universe is beyond man's power to create, so mankind denies the order of the universe so he can deny God and set himself up in God's place.

P.S. Your mom doesn't come into your room and say, "Wait around for a million years and this chaos will eventually organize itself into an orderly and functional design." She says, "Clean up your room, now!" If even one small room cannot organize itself, how can an entire universe accomplish such a feat?

Hahaha I can't believe there are people out there that ACTUALLY believe this garbage?!? The one thing all of your "facts" are missing is PROOF.

Please submit proof of your assertions and beliefs then.

The reason why there's a so-called war between science and faith is because science decided to deny facts so it could deny the Creator. Therefore it was no longer science — a search for truth — but a scheme to deceive people into rejecting facts so they could live a fiction. What is that fiction? It's that wickedness pays. Boil down science today and you will find at its root a desire to deny that there is a righteous God with righteous laws that must be obeyed.

*Application science is [repeatable testing=products for consumption] like vaccines, potable water and smores. This is in agreement with the Biblical mandate(s) to gain wisdoms discerning truths proverbs 8:9~ 9:4~ 9:10-"The fear of the Lord" is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. We get emperically verifiable results. It works or it doesn't.

*Historical science is [interprepation of fossils, sediments & starlight=opinion] like Nicholas Stenos' local floods depositing visible sedimentary layers: Nimrod, George Cuvier,~Charles Lyell condensing these views into something called uniformitarianism. Darwin reading Lyell on the Beagle voyage thus falling into the spell of Lyells' faulty theory of long epochs of time in which the present is key to the past. These imagined time spans gave Darwin license to inject natural selection over long periods to produce the variety of life we see in the present. We get legally supported [enforced] opinions fed by public dollars. Evolution in the classroom. Large legal fees for those who dissent. Or death.

These are the two approaches science has taken.
The first is dealing with the created order, reality.
The second is dealing with mans' corrupted opinion.

By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. Hebrews 11:3

First of all you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 2 Peter 3:3

"We need to act on theory alone, which is to say on prediction alone. It follows that the reputation of scientific prediction needs to be enhanced. But that can happen, paradoxically, only if they[scientists] disavow the certainty and precision that they[scientists] normally insist on. Above all we need to learn to act decisively to forestall predicted perils, even while KNOWING that they(predictions-natural selection, punctuated equalibrium) may never materialize. We must take action, in a manner of speaking to preserve our ignorance".
Jonathan Schell as quoted in Discover magazine 1987.

The following statement is from Dr. Stephen Schneider who famously claimed spray cans damage the atmospher(ozone).
"We have to offer up scary scenarios. make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest". WOW. I rest my case...

Martin A.
"Chief"

The "D" word drives evolutionists bananas. That's because there can only be an "appearance" of design, not design itself, or their whole house of straw tumbles down.

P.S. Design appears to be designed because it is.

The only time there's ever conflict between science and faith is when science departs from observable evidence and goes straight into conjecture. In fact, scientists are practicing a "faith" of their own — faith that is unsupported and unsupportable. The things scientists say are reality often only exist in the scientists' mind. Real faith is not like that. Real faith is based on what you see operating in your life as you humble yourself before the Lord and let him guide and direct you. Real faith leads you to a real God, whom you can know for yourself with a knowledge that surpasses in every way the things of earth.

Tie yourself to the scientist, and you'll sink in the sand. But tether yourself to the Lord, and you're built upon a solid rock, for he never changes.

The explanation of creation doesn't come down to faith. Science is based on actual studies and millions of hours of research by some of the brightest minds in the world, where as faith only leads one to the easiest answer possible. "God did it". God is a fabricated man made belief to bring comfort in not knowing. God is the answer to the human flaw of vanity. We love to feel special or think someone cares. There's no man on a cloud that gives a damn about one person on this planet. We are the product of a biological and astronomical anomaly that has probably occurred, is occurring or will occur in many other places of this vast universe. I'm only writing this bc some annoying religeous nut approached me on the subway platform moments ago and I felt the need to express my oppinion somewhere and your the first site that popped up. The earth and universe is old...dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago and science beats faith everytime. When I'm sick and dying ill want a doctor trained in medical science by my side....not a priest with fairytales

Faith does not lead to the easiest answer possible. Lack of faith leads to the easiest answer possible. For example, a Christian will believe that he or she must live up to a higher moral standard in most cases (some of them choose not to); meaning they must deny themselves several indulgences in life for the benefit of not just themselves but of others around them or that their life may impact. Someone without faith can live without thought of consequence in many instances and may not aspire to any moral standard; thereby taking the easiest and simplest form of logic and assuming that if something makes them feel good, then it is best to fulfill that indulgence. Your example relies on a human flaw because humans are flawed, including scientists. There are no perfect beings currently residing on this planet. No matter how many people or how many hours are spent coming to a conclusion that conclusion is not necessarily the correct conclusion. Look at how many scientific conventions have been challenged and proved to be incorrect. This trend will continue to happen going forward because of politicial, financial, and yes religious motivations. Please try to consider logic in your conclusions and statements. Your entire statement of the creation of humanity is entirely made based on conjecture. You say "probably occurred" because like the rest of us, even with science, you have no definitive answers. The real flaw is to believe that any one person or group of people has all of the answers and that all other beliefs are wrong. All of us have logical conclusions that may or may not be proven to be correct.

This is not science versus faith, but a debate on what is more probable; the universe and everything in it coming into being through purely natural causes, or an intelligent, powerful being creating it. Both sides say they have proof. Both sides say their opponents are crazy for believing what they believe. To find the truth one must look at the pure, untouched facts and see where they lead.

I would like to leave a link to an article I published to day dealing with how some Christians use the Bible to attempt to calculate the age of the earth. This topic has been in the news lately as many candidates were asked for their viewpoint on the subject. I hope this article is helpful.

<a href="http://hub.me/aeuMO" title="http://hub.me/aeuMO">http://hub.me/aeuMO</a>