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Oct
02
Do Christians Need Evolution?
1 Corinthians 15:21-22
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."
Many of the leaders of the creationist movement today were once evolutionists. Most of them believed that God created but that He used evolution to do it; this is called "theistic evolution."...
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Dawkins Becomes a Creationist

As a product of the public school system, I always assumed that evolution was fact. Majoring in science in college, I began having my doubts about the scientific logic of evolution. The first organism that I learned about that was not explainable by evolution was the woodpecker. There is no way that it could have evolved with so many specialized organs. It could only be explained by being created with all of its specialized organs all at one time. It still took me about 15 years to come to the conclusion that God created the heavens and the earth in six literal days.

Christianity explains the basics of science – biology, chemistry, geology, physics, astronomy. They are all based on an orderly, predictable set of laws. And if life is ruled by these laws, then there has to be One who created those predictable sets of laws.

Understanding that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, scientists can more fully understand and interpret data accurately. Whether a scientist is an evolutionist or a creationist, they will interpret the data according to their worldview. Both scientists have to have a faith in what they believe. I feel I have a more complete understanding of the sciences by the revealed Word of God.

After graduating from veterinary school, I practiced small animal medicine, small animal emergency practice, and worked as a pathologist in a toxicology research laboratory. After having my first child, I decided to make a career change to become a full-time home educator for our four children. They have all graduated now, but I am still teaching high school science to homeschoolers. I enjoy sharing my love of science, revealing God’s creation to my students.

Today’s guest blogger is Karen E. Dawkins. She has earned a Bachelor of Science degree as well as a Doctorate in Veterinary Medicine. 

Comments

Oooh, you got me! I was expecting a quote from dear old Richard, but all I got was a homeschooling mom's testimony! :-D :-D :-D

Yeah, me too on the "Dawkins". But it was a good hook, and very useful to me because it brought me in to the blog. Thanks Dawk.

You didn't read far enough. She is a doctor of Veterinary Medicine. I think you got a for real scientist there, lady.

In Luke 15:8-10, Jesus tells a parable of the lost coin. Luke 15:10 reads:
"In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over
one sinner who repents."

I'm certain it doesn't matter the person's name.

Amen. '...for we were all once His enemies.'

"All I got was a homeschooling mom" is a reckless reductionist misrepresentation of Dr. Dawkins' credentials. Give me a break! A Doctor of Veterinary Medicine is not some ivory-tower-bleary-theory credential, it's a real-world "science-must-work-or-expensive-animals-quickly-die" doctorate! Blabbing fairy tales about evolution and billions of years won't accomplish anything in the real world of animal health science -- stop watching TV if you want to know a real scientist when you read one! Isn't it interesting how the REAL SCIENCE ranks (i.e., disciplines where your science must match the real world) of medical science (e.g., Guliuzza, Damadian), veterinary science (e.g., Dawkins & Dawkins), engineering science (Guliuzza, Damadian, Morris & Morris), pharmacology (Wilder-Smith, Gish), rocket science (Von Braun), dental science (Martin), agriculture science (Carver), forensic science (Cooper), and environmental water quality monitoring (Johnson) have a high percentage of Biblical creationists?

Finally somebody get's how science works for us. i'm glad she believes God now.

You will find that evolutionists are pack animals. They love to run around, quoting each other as if they are their own authority. But they scoff at any real authority, especially the authority of God. Evolutionism is not science, but an old Greek philosophy transformed into the only religion allowed in our schools.

Evolutionists call themselves "free thinkers," but what they really mean is they are free from thinking. They have no critical thinking skills, because they see everything through the bias that they must deny God at all costs.

If you really want to be ignorant, be an evolutionist. Otherwise, think for yourself and seek out the Lord's wisdom.

I would like to understand your case of a Greek philosophy being transformed or transmuted.
Which Greek philosophy are you referring to?

If you wish to discuss it privately my email is \timshub /at \gmail /dot /com

It was not an ancient Greek philosophy _per se_, but it's well known that various Greek philosophers espoused various evolutionary concepts, as even Darwin acknowledged, as I recall, in an appendix in his later editions of his _Origin_.

<a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/evolutio/#H1" title="http://www.iep.utm.edu/evolutio/#H1">http://www.iep.utm.edu/evolutio/#H1</a>

Richard Dawkins, the notorious atheist and promoter of evolution, admits that scientific evidence could suggest intelligent design. However, Dawkins says that the evidences of design might have come from some “evolved” alien civilization which did the designing. Okay, so the evidence might show intelligent design, according to Dawkins, as long one doesn’t think that God is the designer… very interesting. This is quite an admission by the notorious atheist.

Dawkins appears quite serious about the possibility of Intelligent Alien Design and has mentioned it on a number of occasions. From a recent documentary called "Expelled" we have:

BEN STEIN: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in evolution?

DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now, um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

Sigh, Dr. Dawkins was replying to Stein if there was an intelligent designer, what would Dr. Dawkins opinioin be. Dr. Dawkins did not state he believed in a designer, in anyway. What part of Dr. Dawkins clear English did you mistake? Fine, I get creationists like to distort the words of evolutionary biologists but Dr. Dawkins was clearly only responding to a hypothetical Stein was asking about. Seriously man.

Is calling people ignorant really the best way to show the love of Christ?

How about quoting the greatest evangelist the world has ever known?

"That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this THEY WILLINGLY ARE IGNORANT [emphasis mine] of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2 Peter 3:2-7

I enjoyed Karen's article, particularly as I had a similar journey of discovery.
Umpteen years ago i spent the night at the house of a friend, and that evening over supper the two of us got into an argument over evolution (an argument on my part, but gentle ministering on his).

I was totally irritated by his inability to see 'common sense'; by his intransigent clinging to archaic dogma; and because he was one of that strange breed ... a 'happy clapper'.

He left me with his assertion that there were no transient fossils and absolutely no evidence of the 'evolution' of the eye, as well as other organs.
An argument that I dismissed at the time because as the article mentions, evolution is a 'religion' and I simply 'believed' in it; but my friends last assertion kept ringing a bell in my brain and goading me.

Anyway to cut a long story short, over a number of years, of dissecting so called evolutionary 'facts', by primarily asking the very simple question "How?"

I found that I had painted myself into a corner from which there was no escape.
Whenever I was confronted by an assertion by an evolutionist, I asked that question, and tried to logically come to grips with it, by applying what I understood of such concepts as ... 'Production'; Design; 'Cause and Effect'; 'systems integration'; statistics,etc; and particularly, as I enjoyed casinos (at that time) I understood the laws of chance.

I realised too, that evolutionists are caught in a trap of their own making ... ' Linear Progression' … which precludes such concepts as 'systems' ... For example a lung does not operate without a diaphragm. A 'system' only functions when all components are in place. Because of 'linear progression' one component evolves before the other, thus in this example .. no oxygen, therefore no life.
I increasingly saw that their 'theory' is based on conjecture, because there are no supporting theories for such things as the formation of the first amino-acids; proteins, first DNA, first cells etc. ... just conjecture. (I could go on and on)

The corner that I was firmly backed into, confronted me with the choice of just two options. - "Chance" or a "Creator"; I had eliminated chance, and so was faced with the inexorable, and scary, certainty of a "Creator". ... and so began the next leg of a long and sometimes painful journey of a self-willed, obstinate, and arrogant sinner.

However the Lord was walking that journey with me, and today I acknowledge him as my saviour. Amen

Dave

P.S. Thanks for this site.

You're very welcome, Dave. And thank YOU for sharing your journey with us!

That's an awesome story and a great testimony of how God can crack the shell of any person he chooses and bit by bit reveal himself to that person. I love how you were honest with yourself enough to at least acknowledge that there were points evolution couldn't explain and to pursue those points further. So many people will not do that. Great story. it was a blessing.

Thanks for sharing your testimony so clearly.

Indeed. One of the ways evolutionists do this can be summarized in the following illustration. A man is walking down a street and looks at his watch, and notices that there is a 10 minute discrepancy between his wristwatch and the clock on the tower of the Cathedral in the square. He walks into the Cathedral and asks the priest who sets the clock and who determines its accuracy. "Well," the priest replies, "I set the clock by the clock on the outer facade of City Hall. I am sure that the municipal employees know what the correct time is." The man then walks into City Hall and asks the receptionist how the city workers set their clock. The receptionist verified that their clock matches the time on the Cathedral but that city employees base their time-setting on a clock makers timepiece outside a small business downhill from City Hall. "After all," she explained, "the owner is a master craftsman and knows how to repair timepieces of any kind." So the man makes his way to the watchmakers store. Inside, he finds the master craftsman who indeed has the gift of piecing together and repairing the disjointed parts of many timepieces into functional machinery. The man asks the master craftsman how he sets his timepieces. "All my timepieces work together in perfect harmony and synchronization," the craftsman explained with a smile, "and if I am in any doubt, I look at the clocks on City Hall and the Cathedral tower."

If you have never seen the film with Ben Stein, "Expelled" then you owe it to yourself to do so. He nails Dawkins at the end of it. Dawkins is forced to admit the truth.

WoW! What a gotacha title -- I was confident that I would be reading about how a certain famous atheist had just died and gone to Hell, and was forced to admit (too late to do him any good, of course) that the Christ Whom he rejected on Earth was not only his Creator (John 1:1-3) but also his eternal Judge. Please tell Dr. Dawkins that ICR's Dr. Jim Johnson would like to interview her by email -- my email address here at teh Institue for Creation Research is <a href="mailto:jjohnson@icr.org">jjohnson@icr.org</a> -- thanks!

Thank You Lord for bringing a Dawkins into the fold!

I doubt I would have read the blog post if you had mentioned up front it wasn't "Richard" ...

I call this a "bait and switch" ...

Yes, but our intent was to get evolutionists to read it, too. How many evolutionists would be interested in reading about Karen's journey to creationism, even though she is a legitimate scientist?

Oh come on now! Did it cost you anything but a few seconds to read? Are you so entrenched in your beliefs you cannot explore how this scientist changed her thinking?

This is nothing but a "bait and switch" ...

Nobody would read this if they knew it wasn't "Richard" ...

Exactly! That's why we wrote it this way! However, from God's viewpoint, Karen is just as important as Richard. In fact, she is a child of God whereas Richard is presently God's enemy.

At first reading the title I was skeptical, and after about 6 seconds, I was sure that there was a catch. After reading the artical, well, I guess I was right. Good headline though!!! : )

yes, I too was hoping this was "The Richard Dawkins"

Yes, technically since her last name is Dawkins the title is correct. However, it is obvious that your intent was to have people think that you were referring to Richard, which makes the title deception. Deception is just another word for lie. This is the way of the world, which as Christians we are not to partake in. I do understand what was stated about getting lots of people to read the article, but there is no excuse for us as Christians to stoop to the level of satans minions and engage in deception. We have to be above that.

We're sorry that you feel we were using deception. Nothing in the story was false, not even the headline. We did not write the headline in order to deceive; we wrote it, rather, to attract people to read the story, especially those who are evolutionists and atheists.

Stop crying. There is nothing deceptive about this article. It is the readers' problem if they equivocate.

Rats. I was hoping it was Richard Dawkins. That was going to be exciting, but this works as well. I'm glad she became a creationist/christian. :)

Great article. I was hoping to ask Karen or other knowledgeable person a creation-design question related to pets. My Lab puppy is recovering from a yeast infection in her ear. The vet repeatedly told me that dog's ear canals are "poorly designed" because they turn sharply and trap water and debris. I am pleased that she at least used the word "designed", but would like to know why God might have designed dog ears as he did before I challenge her on her assessment that they are "poorly" designed. Can anyone help?

This is just my humble opinion, but the dog's ears are perfectly designed. First of all, they hear better than humans. And, in regards to the 90 degree turn of the ear canal, it probably prevents more trauma to the ear drum than a straight ear canal like humans. Just think of how they ambulate: head first. Not only do they have that extra protection for the ear drum, but they also have third eyelids to protect their eyes.
However, dogs can get infections and parasites that can be quite annoying for both pet, owner, and veterinarian. People get ear infections, too.

Dogs have changed a lot since they were first created, especially domesticated ones. So have yeasts, and so has the environment, especially since the Flood destroyed the world as it was originally created, thus dogs' ears may be degenerate, and are exposed to conditions and yeasts that didn't threaten them before.

Evolutionism is such complete nonsense that I had to pen a humorous poem about it. Hope it gives you a chuckle and makes you think. Blessings.

An Evolutionary Tale
By G. Weldon Searles
08-10-2012

Sinclair the tanker truck
Evolved from a slick
Dripped from an oil pan
Lickety Split

Out a valve cover
It slid down the block
And dropped to the earth below
Where it had stopped

The molecules mixed
With the minerals there
And doubled in size
And congealed into pairs

And mixed with the shavings
Of metal and sand
On the side of the road
In this junk yard lands plan

Remnants of retreads
Evolved into tires
The sun melted quartz sand
For computer chips and truck wires

More quartz melted and flowed
Into sheet of clear glass
For windshields and mirrors
And tail lights at last

Milk from dandelion stalks
Mixed with sap from the trees
Melding into plastic
And the vinyls they’d need

The iron ore soil
Now well baked in the sun
Morphed into steel
For the body and wheel drums

Although this took longer
Than one could imagine
The truck had evolved
Into full running fashion

Now If you believe this
Could happen that way
From previously created
Materials to assay

And compile and organize
All on its own
In perfect precision
Then masterly cloned

You may fall for this theory
That from Darwin has grown
That from a dot out in nothingness
Comes all that we’ve known

Organized and evolved
And more intricately compiled
Without intelligence needed
Or any designer on file

And has upwardly ordered
From dead to the living
From simple to complex
Offered without any misgivings

But what we really have here
Is evolution pseudoscience
An explanation contrived
Sans God in defiance

Who worship the creature
Rather than the Creator
Attributing all power
To eons of time as initiator

A world view that’s deplete
Of any God as the source
A Religion of Faith
In nonsense at its core.

Great poem!!!

LOVE it!

For decades I always heard it called "The Theory of Evolution". At some point the word "theory" was dropped and from science to the Cover of Time Magazine , in every public school and university, and in every nature park and zoo, it is pounded into us that Evolution, like gravity and that the world is round, just "is". SPOILER ALERT: Adolph Hitler, a true Evolution-believer BTW, taught: "The Bigger the Lie, the more people accept it." Except for us contrary Christians, there is really no strong Voice of Opposition. And yet, anyone with Eyes Wide Open can see it is full of more holes than the woodpecker's favorite tree!

One way to know that Evolution is bogus: Ask a public school teacher to teach it, or even give it balanced mention. He/She would be fired. The Teachers Union, (ironically with the push to rid schools of bullies, is itself a Goliath-sized Bully) will run you out of your job, out of town and out of teaching anywhere else. Things that are true, on the other hand, don't fear honest, healthy discussion, Only The Big Lie needs such vigilant protectionism.

I have prayed many times about Dawkins coming to the light of the Lord. To use a lie in the furtherance of the gospel is a sin, and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I don't care about the name simularities.

Please remove me from your list.

Mike Nevins

We did not lie, Mr. Nevins. Everything in the story - including the headline - is absolutely true. If you are upset with us for using a headline that would attract evolutionists and atheists to read the story, fine. But don't accuse us of lying. If you were familiar with our ministry, you would know that Creation Moments views the Bible as God's authoritative Word. Since lying is a very serious sin, we do not lie. Period.

Mike, how is this a lie? The names aren't similar. They are the same. This is in no way a lie. Lighten up and God Bless.
In His Grip,
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My name is Bieber but I am unable to control other peoples' assumptions about my identity or connection to the famed young musician. I don't refrain from using my name so as not to mislead people, because I do no harm by using my own name. Jesus said, "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; therefore be shrewd as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matt 10:16 ...So who has been hurt? "...I have become all things to all men that I may by all means save some." (Paul's words) I Cor 9:22b I just hold a different perspective on this matter, but you can certainly glean much good from continuing to receive the insights from Creation Moments. I hope you will reconsider. I am just another recipient of their good human endeavors to point to God in all of creation.

Thank you, Pat, and God bless you!

Sir, this is not a lie, her last name is Dawkins for goodness sakes. Get a sense of humor.

This is really simple. Ignorant, gullible people believe a divine being made the universe and everything in it out of nothing.

Sophisticated, superior people believe the universe made itself and everything in it out of nothing all by itself.

There. Wasn't that simple?

Friend, you are judging me and my friends, many of whom, like myself have college and advanced University degrees and an IQ in the Mensa category. We are not ignorant, in fact, we could probably debate Darwin himself quite reasonably. Why not listen to the other side of the science and not judge without taking in all the new information since Good Old Charles penned his epic work?

I still support Creation Moments, but I disagree with the use of such a misleading headline. Even though the facts are revealed in the article, I'm afraid atheists will still use this as an opportunity to insult and demean Christians. Granted, they do that anyway, but they'll have a field day with this because the opportunity was so freely handed to them.

I apologize that I couldn't have responded more positively and thanks for allowing me to voice my opinion.